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    Posted: 28 Feb 2010 at 10:03am
Recently I was looking through my old coin collection and I noticed a roll of unc. 1973-D pennies had ripped open at the bottom of my collection bin. As I was putting them in a new roll, I noticed one had an odd mark on the reverse of it. Then I got looking at all of the pennies and they all had the same defect, some more defined than others. I don't know what it is or if it is anything special so I figured I would ask you guys for some input. Here is a picture:



Notice one spot looks "worn" even though it is uncirculated and the other spot in the memorial is raised.

Any info would be greatly appreciated!
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Looks like it could be a clash mark but as the die deteriorates it cause spots like on your coin.  Look up 'Ghosting' to see what I mean.
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Just a elongated  gas bubble.
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Originally posted by vaierror34 vaierror34 wrote:

Just a elongated  gas bubble.
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Are you looking at the coin in the photo above. 
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Yes I do believe it's a eglongated gas bubble.
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This is on a 1973 not on the more common to get gas bubbles copper plated zinc.  A gas bubble  on this coin would have raised the detail also.  It's a clash mark from the shoulder below the neck.  Look at the obverse as you would look at a overlay.  Please do some research on what I have posted and then tell me what you think.
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I don't see any indications of a die clash and higly unlikely the shoulder past the neck ,an opinion is just an opinion and that's my opinion.
I respect your  opinion so why can't you respect my opinion ok ok ?
 
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Just tring to teach a rookie a thing ot two.
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By studing this coin more it's post mint damge, I change my diagnostics
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Originally posted by rockdude rockdude wrote:

Just tring to teach a rookie a thing ot two.
I'm  not a rookie, I have more knowledge then you can retain.and you have  sarcasm  in your voice. it's not a die clash ,overlay it and prove it then we will proceed from there ok ok.
 
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In the opening post he said that there are a number of these with the same mark.  That my friend is what a die clash mark will do, not postmint damage for that happens to one or maybe two coins.
Another little training lesson for you.
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Overlay it prove i thigly unlikely that's a die clash and the shoulder of the obverse does not match that object at all.
 
You have to concentrate and obserce the coin more ,look at it again,most of the die clashes i have seen are not raised they are incused. a little leson from a pro.
 
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Originally posted by vaierror34 vaierror34 wrote:

Overlay it prove i thigly unlikely that's a die clash and the shoulder of the obverse does not match that object at all.
 
You have to concentrate and obserce the coin more ,look at it again,most of the die clashes i have seen are not raised they are incused. a little leson from a pro.
 
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Die clash marks ARE raised.  Where did you ever see one that is incuse, please provide an example because is against all the laws of nature that it would be incuse.
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Also overlays are not always accurate especially if the dies are loose when the dies clash.

Edited by rockdude - 07 Mar 2010 at 6:32pm
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